If very few are willing to sit and punch a bag then shouldnt that be a reason for keeping them? You can also see how much hp reduction they have, which gives you an indication of how wined they are.

One of the things that should have been taken out of the game from start.
+1

As somebody who has 0 stakers and hasn't done any staking at all I completely disagree.
The current situation where you can buy cheap wines from Karamja and get very fast attack levels easily is a great thing for the game.
It takes you roughly an hour to go from 1 to 50 and then you can start using r2h with enough accuracy to train other stats all the way to 99.
Reduces the time it takes to great a new account by hours.

There are other fixes for staking if needed but the wine training should not be touched

One of the things that should have been taken out of the game from start.
+1

As somebody who has 0 stakers and hasn't done any staking at all I completely disagree.
The current situation where you can buy cheap wines from Karamja and get very fast attack levels easily is a great thing for the game.
It takes you roughly an hour to go from 1 to 50 and then you can start using r2h with enough accuracy to train other stats all the way to 99.
Reduces the time it takes to great a new account by hours.

There are other fixes for staking if needed but the wine training should not be touched

The staking scene seems to disagree, hopefully I'm wrong but atm we have lvl 3 staking and flats staking.

Not trying to argue if something needs to be done for stakers or not. Just that wine training should not be touched as it has way more applications than just staking